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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2008, 02:48:11 PM »

How powerful is the governorship in NH anyway?  Should it even be an immediate concern?  Can not an overriding house majority be sought in tandem with fielding gubernatorial candidates?  In my opinion, forget DC.  They're going to do what they want when they want and there's nothing anybody can do about it but pursue independence.
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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2008, 03:20:11 PM »

Though liberty isn't really attributable to a party rather than a politician, it does help to have a pro-liberty individual sitting at any point where power becomes focused.
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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2008, 03:46:13 PM »

No doubt.  I don't mean house majority referring to a specific party but rather a majority of pro-liberty seats providing an override capacity for any veto.  Indeed a candidate for governor should be on the ticket for every election a la LP, but I'm just wondering how many resources should be delegated to that pursuit at this time.  I suppose it's a matter of just how powerful the NH Governor is.  Is it "near-dictatorship" as in NJ or do they have nothing to do but sign bills?  If it's the former it is likely well fortified so I personally would focus most of my attention on winning and keeping house seats to reduce the futility that prompts the sentiment of the OP.  Either way I think it's a baby step that's just coming into view but probably can't be reached yet and therefore one mustn't lose sight of the immediately obtainable objectives such as those already secured.
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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2008, 04:16:40 PM »

The NH Governor is intentionally the weakest governorship in the USA. The President of the NH Senate is a more powerful position (which is unfortunate given that we have a Statist in that position at the moment  Tongue )

The Governor cannot authorize more than a few thousand dollars' expenditure, nor can he make any political appointments, without the approval of a majority of the 5-person "Executive Council", who are also elected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Council_of_New_Hampshire
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The Executive Council advises the Governor on all matters and provides a check on the governor's power. New Hampshire is one of the few states which has an Executive Council and the state whose council has the most power. While the Governor retains the right to veto legislation from the New Hampshire General Court and command the New Hampshire National Guard, the Council has veto power over pardons, contracts over $5,000, and nominations.
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« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2008, 04:50:36 PM »

That veto power seems pretty significant, especially given the number of bills listed in the Gold Standard as anti-liberty.
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« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2008, 05:45:52 PM »

That veto power seems pretty significant, especially given the number of bills listed in the Gold Standard as anti-liberty.
yeah, but we could get the same effect with either ~10 more consistently pro-liberty Senators or (much more do-able) 30 more consistently pro-liberty House Reps.
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« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2008, 05:52:07 PM »

yeah, but we could get the same effect with either ~10 more consistently pro-liberty Senators or (much more do-able) 30 more consistently pro-liberty House Reps.

Are their 30 reps who would be open to some advanced scholarship in political theory?
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« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2008, 07:10:37 PM »

Are their 30 reps who would be open to some advanced scholarship in political theory?
Absolutely. Note that my post said 30 more pro-liberty Reps.

I'd say a dozen or so Reps are pretty much already "there", and another few dozen (most of the NHLA-endorsed ones) who are likely open to learning more if it was from a trusted source.

Personally I think the best bang for the buck is the Philosophy of Liberty animation.
http://www.nhliberty.org/philosophy


I've been looking at price quotes for duplication of 425 DVDs. Give each legislator (House + Senate) a copy, plus a brief, 1-page introduction from the NHLA and/or LPNH. Put 'em on their chairs in the committees.
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« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2008, 09:17:35 PM »

I've been looking at price quotes for duplication of 425 DVDs. Give each legislator (House + Senate) a copy, plus a brief, 1-page introduction from the NHLA and/or LPNH. Put 'em on their chairs in the committees.

The "Make Mine Freedom" cartoon you posted on freestateblogs.net might also make a good addition to that DVD, if possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY
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« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2008, 11:01:34 PM »

I've been looking at price quotes for duplication of 425 DVDs. Give each legislator (House + Senate) a copy, plus a brief, 1-page introduction from the NHLA and/or LPNH. Put 'em on their chairs in the committees.

A friend just got a thousand made up for a fundraising thing we're working on, and they were on these mailable/recyclable flex-DVD's I hadn't seen before.  I'll see him tomorrow and ask which outfit he used.
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« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2008, 12:14:27 AM »

Flex-DVDs are more expensive.
I'd be looking for the cheapest possible option.
Hand-delivering them to the committee seats means there's no postage cost, for example.
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« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2008, 11:14:53 PM »

Flex-DVDs are more expensive.
I'd be looking for the cheapest possible option.
Hand-delivering them to the committee seats means there's no postage cost, for example.

Here's the information I got:

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I see the flex-dvd price @1000 units is the same as the standard DVD price @500 units.  Certainly not as cheap, material wise, as burning your own (30 cents for a good DVD-R), but 425 is a tall order to run through personal burners.   Besides using half the plastic, it's possible some reps might see a Flex DVD and think, "hrm, I wonder if this really works."  That's conjecture, of course, and I don't have a good feel for what kind of reception rate you'd get without any gimmicks.

Regardless, I have well over a hundred jewel cases taking up room here you're welcome to if you can use them.
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« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2008, 01:16:34 PM »

Thanks, Bill!!

Can you get a quote on 425 (or 500, if there's a price break) DVD burns?
Bulk "on-the-spindle" is fine.

I have well over a hundred jewel cases taking up room here you're welcome to if you can use them.
Awesome. I have about 100 as well, so half can be in jewel cases and half in paper sleeves.


I'm thinking to put up a chipin for this.
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« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2008, 04:30:12 PM »

Sure, I'll get a quote.  What do you want printed on the discs?

I just ran a small fundraiser with Fundable.org (net $135 to a food pantry) and it worked out well (one fellow reported problems with AmEx, but everything else was seamless).

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« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2008, 04:55:55 PM »

Regarding 'seamless' above, Fundable was seamless, but they pay through PayPal and apparently these days PayPal wants 5 business days to do a bank transfer.  So we missed Thanksgiving.  Cry

I put in a RFQ on the discs.
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